Leadership Lessons Learnt in Isolation
This interview with Dianne McGrath and Sabina Nawaz explores leadership lessons from isolation, drawing on experiences from space mission training, executive coaching, and global leadership. The conversation covers resilience, empathy, mindset, generosity, and practical habits leaders can use to support themselves and others during challenging times.

It was a pleasure to host this joint interview with Dianne McGrath and Sabina Nawaz on the topic of Leadership Lessons Learnt in Isolation. This was a great learning opportunity for me as I'm learning to conduct interviews as well as experimenting with the topic of video editing as one of my hobbies. I would love to get any feedback you may have, as it will help me greatly to learn the secrets to conducting and editing a great interview. A big thank you to Dianna and Sabina for being part of this learning journey.
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Dianne one of the final 100 candidates for the Mars One mission. Currently she is the co-founder of Watch my Waste, – new research to reduce food waste in the hospitality sector. Dianne is also the Director of the sustainability and business consultancy, Food for Thought Consulting Australia.
Most recently Dianne has also gone through isolation training as part of the Mars Society.
Dianne is driven to leave a legacy to inspire the next generation that nothing is impossible!
Sabina is a global CEO coach, leadership keynote speaker, and writer working in over 26 countries. She advises C-level executives in Fortune 500 corporations, government agencies, non-profits and academic institutions. Sabina started her career in software development at Microsoft and then led the company’s executive development and succession planning efforts for over 11,000 managers and 700 executives. In addition, Sabina has spoken at hundreds of seminars, events, and conferences including TEDx. How a Single Voice in Your Head Can Save Your Life.
Currently, she sits on the board of Power and Systems, a leadership development institute.
Sabina believes the greatest privilege of working with executives is bearing witness to their acts of courage!
It was great to be able to learn from both Dianne and Sabin's wealth of experience and tips and tricks that's guiding them during this time.
We discussed many topics, including;
What’s on top CEOs and other leaders mind during this pandemic? The importance of sense of humour vs focus Why we need to care about forgiveness and empathy How do we create safe working environments Create a mindset of : It’s ok not to be ok, and ask for help where you need Importance of mindfulness and meditation Importance of acts of Generosity Making use of your personal and professional network to learn and grow Tip of 1% of generosity - what can I do in 15 mins a day? Focus on physical and mental strength Power of mindset Power of rituals Take care of your Heart, Kidney, Teeth Unconscious bias and Situational Leadership
Finally, I loved one of Sabina's quote: "We are not in the same boat, we are all in the same storm, but in different boats". Thanks Sabina for this insight!